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The Man
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| geddyrush wrote: | | Sodacake wrote: | So because of that we should just ignore the great riffs that Gilmour has created?  |
Let me rephrase that: Gilmour should be much lower, as he is nowhere as good a riff creator as Iommi, which I'm sure many will agree with. Also, I'm pretty sure the guy above me is right, Waters pretty much was Pink Floyd, the writing aspect anyways. |
Writing the lyrics. The majority of the most memorable musical moments were collaberative efforts between Waters and Gilmour, and frequently Wright as well. And virtually ALL of the good "guitar-based" songs were co-written in some way by Gilmour. |
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highway star
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| geddyrush wrote: | | highway star wrote: | | i may have missed it, but I did not see Phil Lynott or Scott Gorham on this list. Thin Lizzy have some AMAZING riffs. |
Lynott was the bassist, but i agree, gorham or robertson could probably earn a spot on here. |
i know lynott was the bassist dude,lol i'm a huge lizzy fan.
the thing is lynott was the chief composer and wrote a majority of the riffs. robertson helped with the harmony arrangements but the main riffs were primarily written by lynott and gorham. |
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geddyrush
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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| highway star wrote: | | geddyrush wrote: | | highway star wrote: | | i may have missed it, but I did not see Phil Lynott or Scott Gorham on this list. Thin Lizzy have some AMAZING riffs. |
Lynott was the bassist, but i agree, gorham or robertson could probably earn a spot on here. |
i know lynott was the bassist dude,lol i'm a huge lizzy fan.
the thing is lynott was the chief composer and wrote a majority of the riffs. robertson helped with the harmony arrangements but the main riffs were primarily written by lynott and gorham. |
Oh, ok, just wanted to make sure. I love thin lizzy. i doubt lynott would get on the list, for obvious reasons, but gorham and robertson should be on here as a duo, seeing as they pretty much created that whole dual lead guitar thing. |
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The Drifter
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| highway star wrote: | my lovely man is super catchy!!! I forgot to mention that riff. super good riff.
for single note riffs i must admit he's not jimmy page or anything, but imo he is one of the best rhythm players ever. his chords progressions and fills in between have so much substance to them. much of it isn't easy to play too. his latest rhythm work from By The Way through now is pretty tricky. |
yeah apparently he was never comfortable playing the heavy rockier stuff on mother's milk anyway. came into his own on subsequent albums. but take nothing away from that first album, think it's his most complex guitar stuff! class riffs! as for by the way, ye certainly very tricky rhythm work! i know from learning minor thing, venice queen, cabron, haha he sure knows how to throw in little leads in the rhyhm work ala hendrix. |
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highway star
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| geddyrush wrote: | | highway star wrote: | | geddyrush wrote: | | highway star wrote: | | i may have missed it, but I did not see Phil Lynott or Scott Gorham on this list. Thin Lizzy have some AMAZING riffs. |
Lynott was the bassist, but i agree, gorham or robertson could probably earn a spot on here. |
i know lynott was the bassist dude,lol i'm a huge lizzy fan.
the thing is lynott was the chief composer and wrote a majority of the riffs. robertson helped with the harmony arrangements but the main riffs were primarily written by lynott and gorham. |
Oh, ok, just wanted to make sure. I love thin lizzy. i doubt lynott would get on the list, for obvious reasons, but gorham and robertson should be on here as a duo, seeing as they pretty much created that whole dual lead guitar thing. |
thats awesome man! i've just gotten into them within the last year and a half. great band.
why couldn't phil lynott make it? jack bruce is on this list and he was a bass player. i think its fair to put whom ever is responsible for the riff-creating on the list, regardless if they are the guitar player or not. Cornell is another example, on many Soundgarden tunes he doesnt even play guitar(at least not live) but he wrote those riffs so he gets credit.
but yes, robertson and gorham pretty much perfected(if not invented) the twin guitar riff style. even when they aren't doing lead harmonies they're often using two guitars playing similar riffs to great effect which had a huge influence on various bands. |
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geddyrush
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| highway star wrote: | | geddyrush wrote: | | highway star wrote: | | geddyrush wrote: | | highway star wrote: | | i may have missed it, but I did not see Phil Lynott or Scott Gorham on this list. Thin Lizzy have some AMAZING riffs. |
Lynott was the bassist, but i agree, gorham or robertson could probably earn a spot on here. |
i know lynott was the bassist dude,lol i'm a huge lizzy fan.
the thing is lynott was the chief composer and wrote a majority of the riffs. robertson helped with the harmony arrangements but the main riffs were primarily written by lynott and gorham. |
Oh, ok, just wanted to make sure. I love thin lizzy. i doubt lynott would get on the list, for obvious reasons, but gorham and robertson should be on here as a duo, seeing as they pretty much created that whole dual lead guitar thing. |
thats awesome man! i've just gotten into them within the last year and a half. great band.
why couldn't phil lynott make it? jack bruce is on this list and he was a bass player. i think its fair to put whom ever is responsible for the riff-creating on the list, regardless if they are the guitar player or not. Cornell is another example, on many Soundgarden tunes he doesnt even play guitar(at least not live) but he wrote those riffs so he gets credit.
but yes, robertson and gorham pretty much perfected(if not invented) the twin guitar riff style. even when they aren't doing lead harmonies they're often using two guitars playing similar riffs to great effect which had a huge influence on various bands. |
Are yo sure it wasn't the greatest bass line creators list that Bruce was on? I don't know why he would be on a guitar list, i mean, he wrote the words, but it's not like Clapton didn't get any input or anything. An i've seen cornell play guitar live alot, so its probably fair for him to get on the list |
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highway star
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| geddyrush wrote: | | highway star wrote: | | geddyrush wrote: | | highway star wrote: | | geddyrush wrote: | | highway star wrote: | | i may have missed it, but I did not see Phil Lynott or Scott Gorham on this list. Thin Lizzy have some AMAZING riffs. |
Lynott was the bassist, but i agree, gorham or robertson could probably earn a spot on here. |
i know lynott was the bassist dude,lol i'm a huge lizzy fan.
the thing is lynott was the chief composer and wrote a majority of the riffs. robertson helped with the harmony arrangements but the main riffs were primarily written by lynott and gorham. |
Oh, ok, just wanted to make sure. I love thin lizzy. i doubt lynott would get on the list, for obvious reasons, but gorham and robertson should be on here as a duo, seeing as they pretty much created that whole dual lead guitar thing. |
thats awesome man! i've just gotten into them within the last year and a half. great band.
why couldn't phil lynott make it? jack bruce is on this list and he was a bass player. i think its fair to put whom ever is responsible for the riff-creating on the list, regardless if they are the guitar player or not. Cornell is another example, on many Soundgarden tunes he doesnt even play guitar(at least not live) but he wrote those riffs so he gets credit.
but yes, robertson and gorham pretty much perfected(if not invented) the twin guitar riff style. even when they aren't doing lead harmonies they're often using two guitars playing similar riffs to great effect which had a huge influence on various bands. |
Are yo sure it wasn't the greatest bass line creators list that Bruce was on? I don't know why he would be on a guitar list, i mean, he wrote the words, but it's not like Clapton didn't get any input or anything. An i've seen cornell play guitar live alot, so its probably fair for him to get on the list |
on the riff creators list it is credited. as Jack Bruce/Eric Clapton. Bruce wrote the main riffs for the most part. Clapton had input sure but it was mostly with chord changes and accompaniment, not riff creating.
as for cornell, fair enough. but man, i dont see how who "plays the riffs" matters, it's greatest riff 'creators', not 'players'. whomever creates the riffs should get at least some of the credit. it would be silly to not give jack bruce credit when he wrote the main riff to "sunshine of your love", you know?
edti: also, i know i wasn't mistaking it for the bassline writers list, because i haven't been on that page in over a year.  |
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highway star
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| anyways, can Frusciante PLEASE get moved up at least a little bit? He has such incredible guitar hooks. |
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Negative Creep
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| Wow...The Worm by Audioslave is absolute ownage. Morello's finest riff I think. |
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highway star
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Negative Creep wrote: | | Wow...The Worm by Audioslave is absolute ownage. Morello's finest riff I think. |
good riff, although for me, the whole first rage against the machine album is full of riffs that i think are all as good as each other. for his riffs i just go with that album. though i like his other work alot as well. |
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geddyrush
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| highway star wrote: | | anyways, can Frusciante PLEASE get moved up at least a little bit? He has such incredible guitar hooks. |
Nope. |
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highway star
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| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| geddyrush wrote: | | highway star wrote: | | anyways, can Frusciante PLEASE get moved up at least a little bit? He has such incredible guitar hooks. |
Nope. |
Can you give me a reason? I can tell you right now that Stone Gossard is not a better riff-creator than him. |
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geddyrush
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| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| highway star wrote: | | geddyrush wrote: | | highway star wrote: | | anyways, can Frusciante PLEASE get moved up at least a little bit? He has such incredible guitar hooks. |
Nope. |
Can you give me a reason? I can tell you right now that Stone Gossard is not a better riff-creator than him. |
I just plain don't like Frusciante or the Chili Peppers at all. |
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Kadakron
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:48 am Post subject: |
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| This is actually an aweful list. Seems very subjective. |
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highway star
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| geddyrush wrote: | | highway star wrote: | | geddyrush wrote: | | highway star wrote: | | anyways, can Frusciante PLEASE get moved up at least a little bit? He has such incredible guitar hooks. |
Nope. |
Can you give me a reason? I can tell you right now that Stone Gossard is not a better riff-creator than him. |
I just plain don't like Frusciante or the Chili Peppers at all. |
well thats not much of an argument.  |
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